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This article claims that there were two Philos of Byzantium: the engineer Philo of Byzantium and another "paradoxographer" writing much later. At the moment, the claims are sourced to a single writer. While I have done some editing to improve readability, I have kept the sense of what is already there.

I think it would be good to understand the extent to which there is a consensus that these are two separate people - is it clear that we need a new Philo of Byzantium (paradoxographer) article, or is there more of a debate doing on?

The Parson's Cat (talk) 09:38, 4 April 2021 hutch

I'm currently reading Dalley's book, and while her citations around this assertion are messy (she primarily cites people who in her view got it wrong), her authority appears to be K. Brodersen, Reiseführer zu den Sieben Weltwundern: Philon von Byzantz und andere antike Texte (1992)—although in a separate note she sources Brodersen's translation that identifies a later Philo as the author to a 1999 edition. She also cites I. Finkel and M. Seymour, Babylon Myth and Reality, British Museum Exhibition catalogue 2008, 185 n. 162 as having "corrected" the confusion of the two Philos. —Snarkibartfast (talk) 08:14, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• The VR game "Walkabout Mini Golf" by Mighty Coconut features "Gardens of Babylon" (2021) as a course in its lost cities series.

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Change "not be confused with" to "not to be confused with" in the last paragraph of the Descriptions in classical literature section 23.118.238.220 (talk) 04:46, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Fixed, thank you. CohenTheBohemian (talk) 05:24, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

“second, that they existed in Babylon, but were destroyed sometime around the first century AD;”

Right after this colon. Just need one of them. IncandescentBliss (talk) 12:26, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Sennacherib claimed that he had built a "Wonder for all Peoples", and said he was the first to deploy a new casting technique in place of the "lost-wax" process for his monumental (30 tonne) bronze castings."

Confusing: there is no obvious connection between the waterworks and the cast bronze items. If there is such a connection, pls explain. The text never states what these huge "bronze castings" actually were. Maybe the water screws? I could imagine that today's engineers would prefer to build them from several pieces, but maybe back then a single piece was preferred. I think ship screws from the heyday of ocean liners were made of one cast piece, and if so that would mean something. But the question here remains, it's probably a case of summarising the source's text a touch too much, and it must be addressed. Thanks. Arminden (talk) 16:32, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]